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Your eyes on the times, you walk ready to speak up, but with so many problems, you're

exhausted trying to keep up.

This is the church politics podcast where you can get political commentary from a biblical worldview.

We're not trying to be conservative or progressive.

We're trying to be Christian in the public square.

And I'm black as heaven.

I'm made in God's image.

Nobody can change my sentence.

Amen, cut off my knees and put it into my search.

It's easy to sell your soul and you don't know what it's worth.

With you no good, Ann Camp, you're listening to the Ann Campaign's church politics podcast

with Justin Gibney, aka Bishop Cooper's grandson, and the Windy City Representative,

the baddest brother above the Mason Dixon line, my play cousin,

the right reverent, Christopher Butler. Okay, Christopher Butler is not here and I got some sad news.

Chris has been fired from the church politics podcast. A reason being, he just refused to be the

co-host that I wanted him to be. He refused to agree with me on every single issue and pander to everything I said. And so I just had to let him go. All right, I'm kidding. Chris is still with us. He's just not with us today. All right? He's not getting fired, but I figured I would scare some of y'all just to wake you up before this very important conversation I'm about to have now.

So I'm really excited about this conversation.

So I'm going to get all the pleasantries out the way so we can get to our special guest, Peter Volk.

Really excited about this conversation.

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