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Guaranteed Human.

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio

at the George Washington Broadcast Center.

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

Armstrong and Getty.

And now he's Armstrong and Getty. President Trump back in Battleground, Pennsylvania

today, touring a Mack truck facility in Lehigh County and announcing

2,600 new manufacturing jobs in the Keystone State.

President also touting 19 million barrels of oil flowed out of the Strait of Hormuz yesterday.

While telling PBS, Americans should support an $80 billion supplemental funding package for the war because, quote, Iran will never have a nuclear weapon.

That's not costing much at all.

That's not at O'Keefe.

So that is not the clip that I chose that was actually about the war in Iran, which would have fit well with talking with Mike Lyons because his expertise is the military.

Welcome Mike Lyons to the Armstrong and Getty show.

Hey, Jack, thanks for having me.

I do want to talk about your piece in real clear defense about the $20,000 drone that should wake up the Pentagon because that sounds really, really interesting.

But before we get to that, I was just reading at least one piece in the Wall Street Journal

where they were comfortable declaring that we lost this war and certainly that the Iranians feel

like they won it.

Is there a way there that at West Point or, you know, those of you in college classes who'd study war determine a win

versus a loss? And at what point do you determine that? Well, if you look at war as an extension

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