You're the CEO of one of the biggest poverty fighting organizations in the world,

Robinhood, which handles like,

beigillions of dollars.

And even your looking at it being like, this is not enough.

You cannot come up with million dollar solutions to trillion dollar problems.

Yes.

Hallelujah.

I don't call what we do charity.

I think charity is paternalistic and is offensive.

Right.

I think, well, we're not a charity.

We're a change organization.

You know, we believe in changing the fundamental structures of a society in which we exist.

The things that we've invested in the most proud of are the things we no longer invest in.

Yes.

Right.

The thing we don't have to invest anymore.

It's either the problem was solved or government took it over.

We were the first organization that invested in needle exchanges.

And we did it at a time when it was really controversial and really scary and people saying,

what do you mean, you know, giving, giving drug dealers clean needles?

Well, the data was showing that if you're looking at the rise of HIV AIDS,

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