When Dennis and Barbara Rainey started taking dancing lessons, they realized what a picture it was of marriage.

When you dance, unless you're dancing solo, it's always a duet. It's always a partnership.

And one person has to lead and the other person has to follow.

Does that mean a wife should mindlessly follow with no opinion? You can't dance if your

partner's not moving. So for me to be completely passive and not move means we don't have a dance.

We don't have a relationship. This is the Revive Our Hearts podcast for Thursday, June 9th, 2016.

Well, we're continuing our conversation with Barbara Rainey.

Barbara and Dennis are the co-founders of Family Life Ministries.

That's kind of the parent ministry of Revive Our Hearts. I remember the day and where I was sitting when I got a phone call from Dennis Rainey saying we're talking in our

ministry about starting a new radio program that would be four women with a woman teacher.

And we think that this is maybe something

you should consider doing, and I'm calling to talk about that.

And I remember thinking and saying, that is a great idea.

In fact, I've been thinking about a program like that myself,

but I think you've got the wrong person.

I think somebody else is supposed to do that.

And so a year and a half later, after a lot of

prayer and dialogue with the fabulous team there at Family Life Ministries, we launched Revive

Our Hearts, September 3rd, 2001. And Family Life has been such a huge contributing player to this ministry. They staffed it.

They supported it in countless ways over those first years. We're now coming up on our 15th anniversary.

And I'm so thankful for all that Dennis and Barbara and their team at Family Life have poured into this ministry.

And so Barbara and I have been friends for a long time.

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