Just start by telling me your first and last name in spelling.

My name is Ramon A.Viles, R-A-M-O-N-A-E-L-E-L-E-L-E-S.

What juror number were you?

I was juror number six.

Juror number six.

He was the one who that 84-year-old witness, Dorothy Kennedy, picked out as the gunman.

To me, it was one of the strangest moments in JJ's trial.

I got in touch with Ramon in 2011, more than a decade after JJ's conviction.

And he still remembered that moment.

She pointed me out, which was something I never expected, but it was laughed at it. It was funny, in a sense.

I caught onto it because I saw the other jurors looking at me.

And when I realized, I went, whoa, did she just pick me out?

It was like, now there's something wrong with that, you know?

I mean, she's at the witness stand, and she's pointing at the jury box.

After that happens, and you're in a deliberation room, how do you vote guilty?

That's a tough one. That's definitely a tough one. It kept coming back to the girlfriend.

Ramon told me some of the jurors didn't believe JJ's girlfriend, Vanessa,

when she testified that he'd been at home talking with his mother the morning of the murder.

They thought Vanessa was covering for JJ.

And once they doubted Vanessa's story, they had trouble believing JJ and his mom, too.

What was the first vote? Do you remember the first vote?

It was pretty much split in the middle, almost.

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