I thought I think I meant to look and say really was from a small festival saying we just have no money so

I'm being up front about it I don't know.

I think it's in any other realm of work if you're offered something you weren't paid enough money you'd

either ask them or you turn it down you wouldn't accept it and then complain about it,

continuing which is kind of I feel that's what authors continually do and I can understand where that comes from

is that they're desperate to promote their work and which is why they work at

less and less. It was so good because I thought it like I said it wasn't it just went beyond the yeah yeah

Alice's piece also focused binary let's just talk about Alex's your piece

I'm like the whole is this is about Alice battle? Tune in everyone.

It's really.

It's focused on the idea that I think the real change, I think you touched on this Alex,

is that 10 years ago say book festivals were largely

there weren't loads of them and they were run as you said John by people who really love

books because there wasn't a load of money in it and but I am aware that there are more book festivals, many of which are of course run by people who love books,

but also because people begin to think, our town needs a book festival.

A book festival is the sort of thing our town would look good with.

So those are the ones where you don't, where you're not reaching out to an audience that you know

are bookish or numerous, where you're taking a bit of a pump that people

will come and sometimes they just don't come.

I mean I have to say you know 350 plus looks a little bit like peak lip fest to me I'm not sure I don't think

that's such a thing really I think every town should happen one. What, by statute, by law.

But I think there's something slightly snobbish about this kind of like

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