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True Crime Obsessed

Let The Women: Anna Vasquez on the San Antonio Four

True Crime Obsessed

True Crime Obsessed

Society & Culture, Comedy, True Crime

4.235.8K Ratings

🗓️ 26 May 2022

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

In the late ‘90s, Anna Vasquez, Cassandra Rivera, Elizabeth Ramirez, and Kristie Mayhugh all received phone calls accusing their lesbian friend group of a crime that never actually happened. What followed was a modern-day witch trial, landing the San Antonio Four –as they’d come to be called– in prison for over a decade. When Anna unexpectedly got out on parole ahead of the others, she had no choice but to lead the fight for their innocence. Now, she’s dedicated her life to preventing similar stories from happening.

This episode is part of a ten-part series called Let The Women Do The Work. Join host Gillian Pensavalle as she follows the stories of ten dynamic, inspiring, badass women in true crime.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:32.0

Finally, this is happening. And then I was like, I told you, this is what I've been saying all along. You know, I mean, it was like a vindication for me, right? That, you know, this is what I've been saying all along. What we've been saying all along.

0:48.0

But unfortunately, we still had to wait, I think, another year and a half before we were actually exonerated.

0:55.0

And then what, that's the ultimate, the best kind of I told you so, right? When you're finally fully exonerated. Like, this is what we've been saying the whole time. Thanks for finally catching up.

1:04.0

Yeah, I mean, it only took, you know, 22 years at that time, you know, to finally receive vindication.

1:12.0

Hi, Jillian here. And this is Let the Women Do the Work, the podcast where we look at true crime from the perspectives of the women involved.

1:23.0

Because in all these stories, there are women in all kinds of roles who don't get the mic. And in this episode, we're handing it over to someone who is at the center of a storm and weathered her way out by standing in her own truth. Here she is again.

1:36.0

Yeah, my name is Anna Vosquez, and I live in just South of San Antonio in a little place called Atkins, Texas.

1:45.0

And I am the director of outreach and education for the Innocence Project of Texas.

1:51.0

Anna works in wrongful conviction advocacy. She travels around, or, you know, these days hops on Zoom and educates the public and specifically young people on their rights when it comes to participating in criminal investigations.

2:03.0

How one small move or answer can lead to innocent people getting locked up. And how that can happen to any of us, but disproportionately to people of color, people in her community.

2:13.0

She knows firsthand how unfair the criminal justice system in this country can be because she served over a decade in prison for something she didn't do.

2:21.0

Actually, for something that never even happened. Here's a clip from Southwest of Salem, a documentary about Anna's story.

2:28.0

It has certain aspects that it certainly sound like a story. You know, Hansel and Gretel or Sleeping Beauty come in, come into my cottage, little girl.

2:41.0

It's too bizarre. It's almost dreamlike.

2:46.0

They take each other's hands and they go into this bedroom and suddenly they're making out and they're caressing each other.

2:52.0

And if you take the little girls out, you replace the little girls with a man. The whole scenario sounds like a porn movie. And it sounds like a man's version of what women do in their spare time.

3:07.0

We've mentioned the satanic panic before on the pod. And we'll mention it again here. Because in the late 90s, Anna and her partner Cassie Rivera, along with their two friends, Liz Ramirez and Christy Mayhew,

3:18.0

were wrapped up in what many would describe as a modern day witch trial. I mean, they're lesbian, so of course, right?

3:25.0

The San Antonio for as they were called were accused of gang raping two young girls and they all went to prison for it.

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