Welcome to the conversations that, That Matter Podcast.

I'm a little bit early today.

We still have a few minutes before.

The podcast is supposed to start at 4 o'clock PM Eastern Standard

time.

At that time, I will be playing the trailer.

Just a few things before we get there, I wanted to talk about the sponsor for the podcast today.

And we've talked about Mud Hen Mama,

before Mud Hen Mama.

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