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Modern War Institute

Let's Talk Multi-Domain Operations

Modern War Institute

John Amble

News, Government

4.8818 Ratings

🗓️ 25 February 2020

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

This episode of the Modern War Institute Podcast features a conversation with Lt. Gen. Eric Wesley, deputy commanding general of Army Futures Command and director of the Futures and Concepts Center. The discussion touches on a variety of topics related to the future of war, but focuses most closely on multi-domain operations—from the technologies and weapon systems that will play an important role in the concept to important questions about leadership and service culture.

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0:00.0

If you're being challenged in all domains, you can do one of two things.

0:06.7

You can invest a whole lot of money so that you dominate all domains into the future like

0:11.0

we have the last 30 years.

0:12.5

But that could become cost prohibitive.

0:14.4

The other way you can create overmatch is to stack those domains in decisive space so that the total, where it's employed, is greater than the sum of the parts.

0:24.6

We don't think you can effectively fight multi-domain operations without a joint all-domain command and control framework

0:35.6

that is, has an engine driver of artificial intelligence

0:40.2

in cloud computing.

0:43.5

Hey, welcome back to the Modern War Institute podcast.

0:46.7

I'm John Amble editorial director at MWI.

0:49.3

And this episode features a conversation I got to have with Lieutenant General Eric Wesley.

0:54.0

He is the deputy commanding general of Army Futures Command as well as the director of the

0:58.6

Futures and Concept Center.

1:00.4

So naturally, we talked a lot about the future of war.

1:04.0

But the discussion focused most closely on multi-domain operations.

1:07.8

This is, as most listeners will know, the way we currently expect to fight in the

1:11.7

future. But I think in part because it is such a new concept, there's a lot of depth to it that

1:17.0

hasn't really been explored yet, but that will and should increasingly inform the way we think

1:22.4

and talk and write about MDO. And I think this episode is a really great starting point to sort of add some of that

1:28.7

greater detail and nuance into the way we conceptualize MDO. Before we get to it, though, as always,

1:34.6

just a couple of notes. First, for those listeners who are already subscribed to the MWI podcast,

1:39.4

thank you so much for anyone who hasn't. You can find us on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or virtually any podcast app so you don't miss an episode.

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