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What's good, everyone? We have an OG on the show. We have Dr. Leif with physician on fire.

Dr. Leaf, what's up? Welcome to Docs Outside the Box again and again.

Thank you. Ney. It's always good to be back talking to you.

You know, hopefully we need to do it in person sometime soon, but for now, this will do.

So short story, everyone, me and Dr. Leif met back in 2016.

We were talking about it right when his blog was very young, right when my blog or my podcast

was extremely young.

And we met at a bar. I was doing locums at Green Bay. You had to remind me. Yeah. And it's just amazing how it's almost seven years ago now, right? Yeah. And I remember I was over there because I did a, I think it was a Spartan race or Tough Mudder, one of those things the day before. And I had injured my shoulder.

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