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Well, howdy there, Internet people, Lidsboo again. So today we have another

installment in Help Me Ruin Thanksgiving Dinner. But this one's a little bit

different. It's a little bit different. This person isn't trying to ruin

Thanksgiving dinner and up until now in this series, all of the questions have been about how to deal with your conservative Facebook using Fox News, watching, probably racist's uncle.

This one's about how to deal with your liberal mom.

The person is a labor organizer and they are, to use their term, A, with a circle, a little more left than their mom.

Their mom's a liberal, and they have these conversations where the person's trying to explain that a lot of liberal policies don't go far enough.

And in many ways they uphold systems that cause a lot of harm for people.

And when they start having this conversation, eyes glaze over and they don't get anywhere.

Says that when they feel like the only time they get concessions is when mom's just like, okay, and not really actually getting the point.

So they're looking for a framing device for both of these situations

because they run into the same issue when they're labor organizing.

Okay, so there are two methods that I've seen success with on this.

One is going to be more useful with the labor organizing and then the other is more useful

for people who don't have a pragmatic basis for it.

So we'll start with the labor stuff. People in unions or people who are organized

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