Welcome to the Dispatch Podcast.

I'm your host, Sarah Isger.

And this week we are talking to Christine Emba,

a friend of mine who is always such an interesting deep

thinker on so many areas of philosophy,

but she has published a book.

Now, she's normally a columnist for the Washington Post,

so you can always see her stuff there.

But this book, well, the sub headline is a provocation

and oh boy is it.

So it's called rethinking sex, a provocation

will put the link in the show notes.

And I don't want to spoil anything.

We're going to jump right in.

Let's dive right in.

Christine, you and I worked out that we

are about four and a half years apart.

You're just under five years younger than I am.

But in that time, a world of difference

has emerged culturally in the experience of dating.

So just to start out with, can you

give me what you think the average date right now

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