Hey, everybody. This is Heidi St. John. Thanks for tuning in.

You guys have found me at my little corner of the internet.

I'm so glad that you're here today because you're in for a real treat.

Barbara Cameron is back on the show and we've been talking about what it's like to raise kids

in the spotlight in Hollywood and her journey of coming to know the Lord and how that

changed the trajectory of her family. You guys are going to love this one.

Stick around. I think you're going to be encouraged. All right.

So for everybody who's brand new to the show, I am very glad that you have joined us here.

And for those of you who've been here for a while, what are we going on?

You guys now 16 million downloads just in the last year and a half alone.

So thank you guys for listening to the show and for sharing it with your friends and your family

for sharing it on social media and for helping me get a message out there really just getting

off the bench and into the culture. God wants us to be salt and light.

It's one of the reasons I love Barbara Cameron so much.

She's definitely done an amazing job of raising her kids.

And I think a lot of you think, well, these these moms, you know, raising these extraordinary

kids must come from perfect homes. It's not the case.

And what I love so much about Barbara is her transparency and her openness to just talk

about their family and bring it down so that we can all relate to it.

So Barbara's back with me today. Barbara, my friend, welcome back to the show.

Thank you for having me back.

I'm so glad that you're here. I really appreciate your willingness to just be a regular person

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