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Uncanny Valley | WIRED

Let's Talk About ChatGPT and Cheating In The Classroom

Uncanny Valley | WIRED

WIRED

Technology

4.1572 Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

There’s been a lot of talk about how AI tools like ChatGPT are changing education. Students are using AI to do research, write papers, and get better grades. So today on the show, we debate whether using AI in school is actually cheating. Plus, we dive into how students and teachers are using these tools, and we ask what place AI should have in the future of learning. 


You can follow our hosts on Bluesky—Michael Calore is @snackfight, Lauren Goode is @laurengoode, and Katie Drummond is @katie-drummond.

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0:00.0

Hi, this is Mike. Before we start, I want to take the chance to remind you that we want to hear from you.

0:06.9

Do you have a tech-related question that's been on your mind, or just a topic that you wish we talk about on the show?

0:12.0

If so, you can write to us at uncanny valley atwired.com.

0:16.5

And if you listen to and enjoy our episodes, please rate it and leave a review on your podcast app

0:21.3

of choice.

0:22.2

It really helps other people find us.

0:24.7

How's everybody doing?

0:26.3

How you feeling this week?

0:27.8

I'll tell you how I'm feeling.

0:29.8

It's Katie here.

0:32.3

My vibe levels are up.

0:34.5

I'm feeling really good.

0:35.6

I was at Columbia University earlier this week with five

0:39.8

of our fantastic editors and reporters at Wired because we were honored at the Columbia Journalism

0:44.6

School this week for our politics reporting. And so we got dressed up. I gave a speech.

0:49.3

And it was so wonderful to have a minute to sort of sit back and take a breath and think about all of the

0:55.4

journalism we've done in the last several months and celebrate that. And it was also really,

0:59.5

really cool to just see and talk to journalists who are graduating from journalism school

1:05.6

and feel their energy and their excitement and their drive to do this work because I think,

1:10.4

as you guys know and you

1:11.3

probably agree, we're all quite tired. Lauren, how are you? When you said because we're tired,

1:17.2

I wasn't sure if you meant like we're just tired in this moment or we are existentially tired

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