Let’s Talk About Betrayal Trauma! (Pt. 2)

Schauer Thoughts

Sarah Schauer & Studio71

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🗓️ 29 April 2026

⏱️ 101 minutes

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It’s time to park it! This week we’re tackling betrayal trauma (yet again) and we’ll be covering the neuroscience, neurobiology, and psychology as well as some tangentially related research on betrayal, betrayal blindness, and the freeze response. I hope you enjoy this week’s communal Schauer, it’s a long one - you may leave this episode a bit pruney. We have fun here. <3 My last book club just ended and we’re starting up a new one, if you’d like to get in on the new book selection, please check out my Patreon! New Book Club Discussion: https://www.patreon.com/posts/next-book-club-156730962 My Substack Article About Rest & Digest: https://sarahschauer.substack.com/p/reparenting-yourself-rest-and-digest Resources: Natural Capitalism: Creating the Next Industrial Revolution - Paul Hawken, Amory Lovins, L. Hunter Lovins How to Change Your Mind: What the New Science of Psychedelics Teaches Us About Consciousness, Dying, Addiction, Depression, and Transcendence - Michael Pollan Why We Sleep: Unlocking the Power of Sleep and Dreams - Matthew Walker PhD The Mind-Gut Connection: How the Hidden Conversation Within Our Bodies Impacts Our Mood, Our Choices, and Our Overall Health - Emeran Mayer MD An Elegant Defense: The Extraordinary New Science of The Immune System - Matt Richtel The Science of Nutrition: Debunk the Diest Myths and Learn How to Eat Well for Health and Happiness - Rhiannon Lambert Rebel Health: A Field Guide to the Patient-Led Revolution in Medical Care - Susannah Fox The Great Nerve: The New Science of the Vagus Nerve and How to Harness Its Healing Reflexes - Kevin J. Tracey MD Dopamine Depletion: The Hidden Driver of Alzheimer’s Memory Loss https://neurosciencenews.com/dopamine-dysfunction-memory-alzheimers-30590/ OpenAI launches ChatGPT for Clinicians, a free AI tool for physicians, NPs and pharmacists https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/ai-and-machine-learning/openai-launches-chatgpt-clinicians-free-ai-tool-physicians-nps-and ughhh. Rebuilding Trust: The Invisible Thread That Holds Relationships Together https://mindlabneuroscience.com/rebuilding-trust-neuroscience-guide/#:~:text=Betrayal%20reclassifies%20a%20trusted%20person,threat%20surveillance%20in%20its%20place Betrayal Blindness: When We Don’t See It Coming https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/brothers-sisters-strangers/202312/betrayal-blindness-not-seeing-whats-obvious The Science of Betrayal: Lessons for Security Practitioners https://crestresearch.ac.uk/comment/the-science-of-betrayal-lessons-for-security-practitioners/ Impact of Interpersonal, Family, Cultural, and Institutional Betrayal on Adult Survivors of Abuse https://www.researchgate.net/publication/375579575_Impact_of_Interpersonal_Family_Cultural_and_Institutional_Betrayal_on_Adult_Survivors_of_Abuse Freeze for action: neurobiological mechanisms in animal and human freezing https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5332864/ Understanding tonic and phasic muscles https://www.bodyharmonics.com/what-are-tonic-and-phasic-muscles-and-why-should-i-care/ Magnocellular and Parvocellular Pathways https://pressbooks.umn.edu/sensationandperception/chapter/magnocellular-and-parvocellular-pathways/ Temporal fractals in movies and mind https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5849648/ The Science of “Frozen Brakes”: Why Brake Pads Seize in Freezing Temps (And How to Fix It) https://nrsbrakes.com/blogs/supporting-articles/the-science-of-frozen-brakes-why-brake-pads-seize-in-freezing-temps-and-how-to-fix-it#:~:text=If%20you%20find%20yourself%20stuck,afterward%20to%20dry%20them%20off How to Overcome the Freeze Response https://www.nicabm.com/topic/freeze/#:~:text=Signs%20of%20the%20freeze%20response%20include:%20*,Full-body%20mobilization%20*%20Co-regulating%20with%20your%20client 13 Effective Ways To Reset Your Nervous System And Regulate Well-Being https://neurodivergentinsights.com/13-ways-to-reset-your-nervous-system/?srsltid=AfmBOoqonLE8VzCJO-32UGsjG4ynQpwq-NicmLh-pC4MwrQzQjcOEdax The Power of Humming https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-compassionate-brain/202410/the-power-of-humming Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi guys, welcome back to Shower Thoughts. My name is Sarah Shower. This is a podcast for left and right
0:12.7	brainers, middle brainers, anyone with a ponds, medulla, parasympathetic nervous system,
0:18.4	sympathetic nervous system, enteric nervous system. If you have any type of nerve,
0:22.8	this is the podcast for you. We are doing part two to betrayal trauma and what it means to have
0:29.7	betrayal trauma and experience betrayal blindness. We started this last week and now we're going to be
0:36.0	picking it up again. I'm super excited to talk about
0:37.9	this. But before we get into that, how has my week been so far? It's been good. I have a meeting
0:43.5	with nature research next week to discuss some social media stuff. And so like, I'm just excited to
0:49.6	help out. I love nature research. Also, I picked up an interesting book. I was, my butch, I was, drove them to
1:00.4	meet another butch because, you know, two buches have to be friends. And so while they were
1:05.9	hanging out, making sure that they like vibed and clicked um it wasn't a mike tyson now kiss
1:11.3	situation it was just uh you know seeing if they'd vibe and uh they did and it went really well
1:17.6	and but while they were talking i went into this like more natural um bookstore and i guess by
1:24.0	natural i mean like one of those bookstores that sells like incense and a lot of more spiritually like geared books.
1:30.7	And what is interesting is that those types of bookstores have a lot of information on the parasympathetic nervous system because it has to do with rest and digest.
1:38.9	And, you know, it's more concerned with like body and body healing.
1:42.5	And some of the books in there were a bit
1:44.8	iffy. Some of the books in there, I was like, oh, I love her. I love her. I love her. But, um,
1:50.4	it was all around just like an interesting experience to see what like is being published. But I
1:54.2	picked up this book called natural capitalism. And I know that sounds like an oxymoron, but it was
2:00.3	basically just, um, talking about, you know, how to be more green when it comes to, you know, producing manufacturing, like, consumer goods and how to, like, reduce sort of, you know, pollution in the atmosphere.
2:17.1	And I was really, really looking into it because I
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