Let's talk with Heather DuBrows starts now. Okay, my guest today I've been watching her forever. She doesn't know I'm kind of a super fan.

She became so huge I think starting in the pandemic we're gonna break it all down

she got her new cookbook called let's make some lunch

it's sully Jessica Wu welcome.

First of all, look at how cuter book is.

Thank you. I mean, amazing.

So there's so much to break down with all of this.

You're a mom of three, a'm a mom of four, been making

lunches for a long time, nowhere near your lunches. However, I mean I did do the whole thing. Anyway, we're going to get into all that,

but I want to kind of scroll back a little bit and talk about how it began, because what we talk about a lot is, you know, especially being on a reality show, is that authenticity sells. Yeah.

It's what works.

And I remember in the pandemic, I remember just watching your videos.

And you just very authentically kept saying,

let's make some lunch for my girls. Yeah, let's make some lunch for my kids.

It was basically just something I did, you know, every day my oldest was already going into third or fourth grade

so I had been making these lunches every day since

kindergarten you know and for me it was just another task and for I just have an

artist background so I was like how can I make this nicer, cuter,

fun, you know more fun I guess and it just kind of gradually you know I just made it

so that it was more challenging for me.

Like what can I make her that will open up her palate,

you know?

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