Now, welcome, welcome, welcome. We weren't bitching. We were gossip. We weren't even gossiping. We were just trying to put two and two together to make 645. It's a glorious sunny day here in London town. It's a Thursday. I've had a mini tim tim tim tim. Things couldn't get me better. You've never had a tim-tam before. No, I think today is my first tim-tam. Well, somebody has got a mega-pack of mini-tim tim-tams and very kindly left it on the chocolate shelf. Well, it's our Antipodean colleague, isn't it? Which one? Kea. Oh, is it? And is it her birthday?

I don't know.

Is it Kear's birthday? No, she's just come back from Australia. Oh, okay. That was Hannah. Well, she's... She's gifted us. I think they probably sell them in duty-free, don't they? You can take a little bit of Australia back home with you and biscuit form. but they are gorgeous. They are, they are our go-to

biscuit of choice in our household. Oh, no. Because I must have it, they've got a hint of the

penguin and I was never a fan. They've got a hint of the old penguin about them, but they're

more chocolatey than a penguin. You can't call a penguin a chocolate anymore, can you? Because

it's mostly vegetable oil, but there is something about the Tim Tam, which is very, very satisfying. I congratulate

Australia on its mid-morning chocolate choice. Well done, Australia. And you mentioned penguins.

I'm going to bring up the Dormouse, which allows me to mention that our guest today.

God, that was terrible

so I've only just realised that that was a link

our guest today was due to be Monti Don

I think we made quite a lot of it yesterday didn't we

you did

anyway he can't do it.

So, we've shoehorned in and water replacement and we're so lucky it's Pamirs.

So, do you know what, just to avoid Pamirs,

sounding like she's been booked because, you know,

Monti-Dong couldn't make it.

No, no, we're always going to.

She was always on the slate for today. I have never, ever and never would turn down the opportunity to interview Pam Ayers. And she's got a new book out. It's for the kiddies. It's about the Dormouse. And did you know, Fee, and I'm hoping that the answer to this is no, that they're one of Britain's rarest mammals, dormice.

I didn't know that, Jane.

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