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The Vergecast

Let's Chat about RCS

The Vergecast

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Tech News, News, Technology

4.34.3K Ratings

🗓️ 16 November 2021

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

The Verge's Dieter Bohn dives into the messy past and uncertain future of Rich Communication Services, or RCS, a new texting standard that Google had been pushing for Android users. Guests include: Sanaz Ahari, Senior Director of Communications Products at Google Ron Amadeo, reviews editor at Ars Technica Relevant links: RCS: What it is and why you might want it AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, and T-Mobile have finally agreed to replace SMS with a new RCS standard A decade and a half of instability: The history of Google messaging apps Google is rolling out end-to-end encryption for RCS in Android Messages beta SVP of Android offers open invitation to help Apple put RCS texting on the iPhone Produced by Andru Marino, Liam James, and Dieter Bohn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Sorry to interrupt. I'm going to go because there's breaking RCS news. The carriers have basically

0:06.7

formed a consortium to hijack it and steal it away from Google and I am the only person

0:11.2

I can write this story. So I got to go. I'll just tell people they had to drop for breaking

0:14.7

RCS. I'm going to just tell them exactly what happened. Yeah. Okay. I got to go make

0:19.5

some calls. Bye. This is amazing. Bye. That's hilarious.

0:24.4

Take an October 2019, I was out in some rented podcast studio doing the Vergecast. I couldn't

0:30.2

get back to the office in time. And even though it's really not a great idea to do during

0:35.0

a podcast recording, I happened to check my email and I saw something nuts. The big four

0:40.9

US cell phone carriers had agreed to form a new coalition to support a new texting standard.

0:46.8

I immediately bailed on the Vergecast. Sorry, Neely. I ran out to my car that was parked

0:53.9

in this random street and I started making calls. I was trying to get to the bottom of the

0:58.5

so-called new Cross Carrier Messaging Initiative, the CCMI. It was a consortium that could

1:04.6

mean that we might finally get rid of SMS texting and move on to a new standard that Google

1:10.6

had been pushing for Android users. It was called Rich Communication Services or RCS.

1:18.6

As I said at my car reporting and making calls, I learned that the carriers were promising

1:22.6

to create their own texting app, which sounded horrible. So we all waited for a long time

1:29.7

for this bad plan to go in effect and it never did. That blockbuster announcement was pretty

1:35.3

much the last thing we heard about CCMI. T-Mobile eventually bought Sprint and it took until

1:41.0

April of 2021 for the carriers to admit and only under lots of reporting pressure that

1:47.0

they had given up on the CCMI. Here's the thing about this new texting standard RCS.

1:54.2

Almost every story about it ends up feeling like this. There's a big splash that makes

1:59.4

you think maybe we're going to finally be able to replace SMS with something that's not

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