Hello, everyone. You're listening to Family Talk, a radio broadcasting ministry of the James Dobson Family Institute.

I'm Dr. James Dobson, and thank you for joining us for this program.

Well, today here on Dr. James Dobson's Family Talk, I'm Roger Marsh, sitting in the co-host chair and joined for this special segment by Dr. Jerry Newcomb, who's the executive director of the Providence Forum, co-author of the bestselling book, George Washington's Sacred Fire.

He also serves a senior producer and on-air host for Truths to Transform.

Yeah, on-air contributor, yeah. The broadcast ministry of Dr. D. James Kennedy. B.A. in history, doesn't surprise me at all from Tulane, Masters and Communications from Wheaton and his doctorate of ministry, that turned into a book, his dissertation did, The Book That Made America, How the Bible Formed Our Nation. Today we're going to talk a little bit about a new project that they're working on at the Providence Forum. And this is one that basically talking about the founding fathers establishing America based on God's Word. It's a book called In the Footsteps of Giants. And we'll have that link up at Dr. James Dobson.org. Dr. Jerry Newcomb, welcome back to Dr. James Dobson's family talk.

Thank you, Roger. My privilege to be with you.

It's great to spend time with you. We always have such a good time talking about history and faith and how the two are intertwined. And I know a lot of people will look at, you know, say, well, gosh, America, who are these mega people, who are these Christians,

who are these people who think that America

is somehow a Christian nation?

But I love the fact that you have

historical proof and have done the research that back to the founding, this is where we are,

this is what we've always been. Yeah, America, in a sense, is one nation under God.

The essence of the Declaration of Independence,

which is our national birth certificate, is really self-rule under God. Our rights come from the

creator. Therefore, they're non-negotiable. And here in America, we are ruled by the consent

of the governed. Right. That's the key, those two key things.

And in a very real sense, that all began, those two key principles, self-rule under God as the American experiment.

That's the essence of the American experiment.

It actually begins in the cabin of the Mayflower on November 11th, 1620.

And what I mean by that is when the pilgrims first came over, they were blown off course.

They had permission to go to the northern parts of Virginia.

Back then, that was around the mouth of the Hudson River and so forth.

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