Hey everybody. Welcome to the Muckrick podcast. I'm here, Dave Sexton. Here's always with my wonderful, beautiful co-host, Nick Houseman. We have a really special treat today. We have with us for this really interesting topic of a new project that he's carrying out. We have David Parsons, the host of Nostalgia Trap,

and the author of Dangerous Grounds, Anti-War Coffee Houses, and Military Descent in the Vietnam era.

But we had to get him on because we needed to talk about his new Patreon exclusive series,

NOM TV. And we got him for a little bit of time, but I assume it's not even that long

of a conversation. I assume you'll play some credence. You'll probably talk about some jungle

battles, you know, talk about people throwing medals into reflecting pools and call it a day.

Oh, not to mention troops getting spit on as they come home. I'm sorry if I went ahead and

spoiled all of it.

Yeah, those are the main topics we want to hit, for sure.

Well, can we also think no rain and so that it won't rain?

Credence is going to be there, man. You watch the first episode, and I put that in there for a reason,

because I feel like there is a certain cliche soundtrack to the Vietnam War. And I want to play with some of that, because it feels like time to shift our understanding of this era, for sure.

And that's my goal with the project. Yeah, and, you know, I actually, so I tuned in for the first episode.

And again, that's NOM TV over with the nostalgia trap podcast.

And I have to tell you when I turned it on and immediately fortunate sun came over my AirPods.

I laughed my ass off because I knew immediately that you weren't going to go down that road.

But I also think that it's really fascinating.

I mean, we have come to think of this massive moment in history that has affected everything after it,

this savage moment of imperialism.

And now we just have like these cultural touchstones that everybody has to

put in with it, all of these story points, all of these mythologies that come together. Can you

talk a little bit about what it is that you're trying to dismantle and what it is you're trying

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