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The DSR Network

Lessons in Kakistocracy

The DSR Network

Chris Cotnoir

Government

4.51.7K Ratings

🗓️ 24 April 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

On this week’s episode of Words Matter, founder of Talking Points Memo Josh Marshall joins Norm Ornstein to discuss everything wrong with the Trump administration. What is so uncanny about Trump’s foreign policy towards Russia and Ukraine? What message are we signaling to our allies? And how much worse could this all become? Tune in for all this and more. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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9, 12, 10, 28, 2, 23.

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This is Deep State Radio, coming to direct from our super secret studio in the third sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, D.C., and from other undisclosed

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locations across America and around the world.

1:35.1

Hello, and welcome to Words Matter.

1:38.1

The podcast we do every week, I'm Norm Ornstein.

1:41.6

We do it with David Rothkopf, who was unavailable today. So we had to find

1:47.1

somebody to replace him who was even better. And we were able to do that with Josh Marshall,

1:53.4

who of course, familiar to so many created TPM, a must source for everything about not just politics and the horrors we face as our

2:06.7

democracy is under existential threat, but so much more.

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