Rick Elias is a plane crash survivor.

Ted Talk speaker and CEO of Red Ventures, a multi-billion dollar company.

On this show, you'll hear conversations Rick feels lucky to have had with leaders, athletes, and innovators.

Plus, three things you can learn from each.

It's two people, 20 minutes, and three things. Plus, three things you can learn from each. It's two people,

20 minutes, and three things with Rick Elias.

Today we'll hear from astronaut Chris Hadfield, former commander of the International Space

Station, first Canadian to walk in space, and first, to our knowledge, astronaut to cover David Bowie while in orbit.

Chris and Rick talk about leadership under insanely stressful situations, machines taking over the world,

and humans living on the moon. This is three things.

Welcome to Charlotte. Welcome to Red Ventures. It is great to have you here.

It's a delight to be here and thanks for making time to chat.

So I'm going to get right to it.

I was lucky enough to be on that plane that landed in the Hudson River.

I am very grateful that I had that experience but I would have not chosen it as a choice.

You took a profession where that was part of the opportunity set

of what outcomes could happen. Tell us a little bit more about how you got to decide to be an

astronaut. Yeah, what Sully did that day when he lost both engines and made all the right

decisions and where everybody should have died, but because of the things he'd done during his life,

the preparation, the seriousness with which done during his life, the preparation,

the seriousness with which he took his profession, he saved, nobody even got hurt. I mean,

hopefully you didn't get hurt, but that is a miracle. But it was not a random thing. It was the direct result of him changing who he was to be able to do something extremely difficult.

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