But it was so hard, and yet he kept getting up in the morning and taking a step forward,

which is one of the messages I learned writing this book, one of the lessons writing this book

about these five astounding people who were made astounding.

They weren't born astounding.

Crisis forged them into astounding individuals

capable of doing a mighty thing. Right. It's not surviving in crisis. No. Forged in crisis.

We don't want the freaking crisis. Because you allow yourself to be made more stronger, more resilient,

more courageous, right? More ambitious. All these people

accomplishes these extraordinary ambitions because they are forged in crisis. So one of the

things that's so important as a lesson is sometimes the most important thing you can do is get out of bed the next morning and

take the next step, however small, right? History is made by these kind of daily choices. And Lincoln

is a great example of this important aspect.

Music of this, of this important aspect. Welcome to the aggressive life.

You don't have to know much about America to know that probably the most inspirational, if not influential, if not influential person in all of American history is, my vote

goes to Abraham Lincoln. So I kind of hit the jackpot when I've been sort of a Lincoln freak.

And then I found a new little segment of a book who has been on the aggressive life before.

Nancy Kane was on our podcast quite some time ago with her book Forged in Crisis.

And as you may know about me, I rarely read the books before I'm with the person I'm hanging out with and interviewing.

If I like them, and I think they got some good stuff, then I'll read the book.

And man, she helped me pretty spellbound on another person I found fascinating.

Ernest Shackleton.

So like, okay, okay, let's dig in the book.

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