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Conversations with Coleman

Lessons from Afghanistan with Rory Stewart

Conversations with Coleman

The Free Press

Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.5619 Ratings

🗓️ 9 November 2023

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

My guest today is Rory Stewart. Rory Stewart is a British politician, diplomat, and author who served as a member of parliament from 2010 to 2019. He held several governmental positions, notably as a Secretary of State for International Development in 2019, and was known for his extensive work in Afghanistan and Iraq. Rory has authored several books, such as "The Places In Between", about his solo walk across Afghanistan, and his new book, "Politics on the Edge", a memoir from within. Rory and I talk about what he learned by walking across Afghanistan. We talk about the war in Afghanistan and what lessons Israel might take from it. We talk about Brexit. We talk about why the Scandinavian model is not appropriate for Britain. We talk about the culture of the world of politics. And finally, we talk about why Rory is so passionate about GiveDirectly, which allows people to give cash directly to the people in the developing world. References: Haaretz article - https://bitly.ws/ZG3G Noam Dworman's tweet- https://bitly.ws/ZG3R   Pre-order my book: "The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind America" - https://bit.ly/48VUw17 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

The

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The Welcome to another episode of Conversations with Coleman.

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If you're hearing this, then you're on the public feed,

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which means you'll get episodes a week after they come out, and you'll hear advertisements. You can get access to the subscriber feed by going to

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you'll never hear ads, and you'll get access to bonus Q&A episodes. You can also support me by

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liking and subscribing on YouTube and sharing the show with friends and family. As always, thank you so much for your support.

1:03.0

Welcome to another episode of Conversations with Coleman. So before I get to my guest today, I want to say a few words about my recent podcast with Yusuf Muneiur.

1:12.1

In general, I wanted to speak to Yusuf more than I did about the events of October 7th

1:17.2

and the war between Israel and Hamas. It was clear that Yusuf didn't want to dwell too much on those

1:22.2

topics, but instead wanted to give his take on the history of the conflict, which is okay,

1:26.7

but not exactly what I was

1:28.1

looking for. More importantly, though, Yusuf made a claim in our conversation that was factually

1:33.3

inaccurate, and I need to correct the record here. We were talking about Israel's unilateral

1:37.9

withdrawal from Gaza in 2005, and Yusuf said, and I'll quote him at length, he says,

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quote, if you look at the explanation for the withdrawal, and this is something that was documented

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in the Israeli newspaper, Haretz, back in 2004-2005, I'd encourage people listening to this to go back

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and read Ariel Sharon's advisor, Dove Weiss Glass, who explained the logic behind the withdrawal

1:58.9

at the time.

1:59.9

He did not say, we're withdrawing

2:01.6

because we want to move towards peace with the Palestinians. Actually, he said the exact opposite

2:07.2

of that. He said, we are withdrawing from Gaza to stop any movement towards peace. We want to be

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