Welcome to the podcast Think Bibbically, conversations on fake and culture.

I'm your host, Sean McDow, Professor of Apologetics at Talbot Theological Seminary,

Biola University.

Our guest today is a friend of mine, Jojo Rooba, who's a friend of Biola,

but has a ministry called Faith Beyond Belief in Canada.

And we're actually recording this up as I'm speaking at your conference.

Both of us are.

Both of us are, yes, that makes sense, doesn't it? at your conference

conference.

as we're at your conference here in Canada.

We explored topics that we could cover in this that would interest our audience

and when I asked you you said what about

lessons that Americans could learn from where Canada is at in terms of

religious freedom and socially so let me just throw it out there and say broadly

speaking what makes you think that

there's certain lessons about where America's headed that we can learn from

where Canada is and where Canada's going. Yeah let me clarify I'm not saying

that we have so much to teach you guys. That's not what we're saying at all.

Of course. The fact that I'm a Biola's podcast, it's an amazing thing. We love Biola. We'd like to promote them as much as we can.

But no, we're so much ahead, maybe 20 not not actually that much ahead, but maybe 10 20 years ahead of where the states is is at

Culturally politically socially socially and so from the the Christian perspective there's much that you can do to prepare for what's going to happen.

If the things that are happening here, and there's no doubt, I think, in terms of the trends that

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