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The Socialist Program with Brian Becker

‘Lesser of Two Evils’ Logic Destroyed w/ Eugene Puryear

The Socialist Program with Brian Becker

The Socialist Program

Politics, News

4.7587 Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2024

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Trump is beating Biden in the polls in several key swing states. The Democrats have pushed the logic of ‘the lesser of two evils’ argument for years, yet the country has moved to the right. They give voice to many key issues people are struggling with, but their solutions never address the roots of them and often they sabotage their own meager solutions.

Brian Becker is joined by Eugene Puryear, author, activist, and co-host of The Freedom Side LIVE, which airs every Thursday from 3 p.m. to 5 p.m. Eastern on BreakThrough News.

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0:00.0

According to the most recent polls, if the presidential election was to take place tomorrow,

0:07.0

Joe Biden will lose to Donald Trump.

0:10.0

We need a new system. We need a new society.

0:14.0

We need to demand that which may have sounded impossible even a few weeks ago,

0:19.0

but is not only realizable, but an imperative necessity. The Welcome to the Socialist Program. I'm your host, Brian Becker. Today we're talking with Eugene

0:51.4

Per year. Eugene is an author. He's a political activist, and he's the co-host of the Freedom Side Live, a live video show

0:59.5

every Thursday from 3 to 5 p.m. Eastern on Breakthrough News.

1:04.8

Eugene Per Year, welcome back.

1:06.6

Brian, as always, thank you so much for having me here on the show.

1:09.8

These are remarkable polls, Eugene.

1:12.6

Five of the six swing states that Joe Biden absolutely needs to win, he's losing.

1:20.5

And when you think about the remarkable turn of events, if I was going to talk to you on January 7th, 2021, for instance, not so long ago,

1:31.2

after the attempt to decertify the election using a massive turnout of Trump supporters,

1:38.7

a move that was defeated that brought shame and ridicule on Donald Trump's head. It would be hard to have anticipated

1:47.6

that he could become president once again. But here we are. Donald Trump is beating Joe Biden.

1:55.6

Anyway, I want to get first before we talk about, you know, what this means, what it might mean, will it make any difference?

2:03.4

These are important questions. I think people on the left are debating this right now. We want to

2:07.9

debate it. But before we get into the debate, the controversy about whether or not this actually

2:14.5

matters or why it matters or how it matters. I want to get your take.

2:18.6

When you step back and look at the last four years, a remarkable turn of events.

2:24.3

It really is a remarkable turn of events. And I think it speaks to the extreme unrest that

2:30.2

exists in the American political system, or maybe the better way to put it is the extreme

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