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🗓️ 8 July 2025
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0:00.0 | Okay. |
0:08.5 | Welcome to Law Talk. |
0:11.1 | Now a production of the Civitas Institute at the University of Texas, Austin. |
0:18.5 | Welcome to, well, do they need any introduction? They do not, Richard Epstein and |
0:24.3 | John U. I am Charles C.W. Cook. And since we last did an episode, we had a whole host of huge |
0:32.7 | Supreme Court cases. In fact, we had six in one day on the last day of the term. That was Friday, |
0:39.9 | June 27th. The biggest case of the term, arguably, the one we're going to start with today, |
0:49.2 | was Trump v. Kasa, capitalized, C-A-S-A. Now, this started life as a case about the 14th Amendment and birthright citizenship. |
1:02.7 | But over time, it morphed away from that. |
1:06.1 | And in fact, the merits were not reached and became a case about the validity of nationwide |
1:13.6 | injunctions. |
1:15.5 | It was six to three and the usual suspects lined up in the usual positions. |
1:24.4 | Now, before we go to John and to Richard, I will tell you my big takeaway from this, |
1:31.0 | which was that I was persuaded by the majority opinions that, legally speaking, that is under the |
1:42.1 | Judiciary Act, under the various statutes that have been passed since, |
1:48.1 | in particular the Administrative Procedure Act, and under the court's inherent powers constitutionally, |
1:55.5 | there is a limit on nationwide injunctions and that it is not acceptable for a random judge somewhere in the |
2:06.3 | country to claim powers that he does not, per the court, have. But here's my worry. I worry that without Congress acting to take back power from the president, without the |
2:23.5 | Supreme Court getting involved in big cases swiftly, and without Congress giving the lower |
2:31.6 | court some more guidance on when they ought to intervene, that this is going |
2:38.9 | to empower the presidency and make it even more imperial. |
2:44.4 | And as such, although I think that the dissents, which were sometimes quite silly, were wrong on the law and that the court was obliged only to |
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