Well done. You've sorted through the embarrassment of riches that is the modern podcast landscape

and found me Rob Briden on my podcast. In this series of Briden and I talk to among

others Harry Hill, Ben Elton, Charlotte Church, Steve Cougan and Dame Harriet Walter.

And that's just a few. We tend to chat for about 45 minutes to an hour never longer.

It's terrific conversation, reminiscent where appropriate and exchange of anecdotes.

So do join me Rob Briden wherever you get your podcasts.

New episodes of Briden and are available early and ad free on Amazon Music or by subscribing

to Wondery Plus in Apple Podcasts or the Wondery app.

The Panic is a new comedy podcast from Wondery that leans into our most absurd anxieties and

defuses them with humor and actual advice. Listen to Don't Panic on the Wondery app or

wherever you get your podcasts.

From ABC, this is the 10% happier podcast. I'm Dan Harris.

Before we get to the episode this week, I got a new book coming out. It's called Meditation

Prophigetic Skeptics. It's a how to meditate book. But it's also got a story. It's the story

of me and one of my favorite meditation teachers, Jeff Warren, going across country in a stupid

orange bus meeting people who want to meditate but aren't and really helping create a taxonomy

of reasons why people aren't meditating and then throw in a bunch of practical advice

to people about how they can get over these various obstacles like not finding the time

or feeling like that you can't clear your mind, etc. etc. Anyway, I'm really happy about

the book. Really proud of it. It comes out the day after Christmas and time for a new

year, new you and you can get it on pre-order now. So it's shameless self-promotion out

of the way. Let's get to the episode this week. Leslie Booker. I met Leslie Booker

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