Hello and welcome to Little Gold Men, the Award Season Podcast from Vanity Fair and

Panapley.

I'm Katie Rich, the deputy editor of Vanity Fair.com, and I'm here Rich the deputy editor of vanity fare

and I'm here to introduce this special holiday episode of the show

with our film critic Richard Lawson.

Hello.

And our senior writer Joanna Robinson.

Hello.

So this week it's the week of Christmas as you listen to this and we're going to be sharing two interviews

that Richard has done in recent weeks.

Richard, I can't come up with a clever way to say how Leslie Manville and Jamie Bell

are related, but you just met with both of them so

tell me what they have in common. Well I have a tradition every year I like to at

toward the end of the year I'd like to sit down with British people and just talk to

them so that's that's and feel insecure about your education or your accent?

We put on those little paper Christmas crowns that you always see in British movies about Christmas.

And we just, you know, we do little crackers and all that stuff.

So that's what we did, not at the same time, unfortunately.

But yeah, we had Leslie Mann villain to talk about Phantom Thread,

which he's wonderful in, and Jamie Bell, who's terrific in film stars

Don't Die in Liverpool, which is a movie with Annette Benning

that has been a little overlooked this season but I think is definitely worth

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