Gentlemen, my guest today needs no introduction. Now most of you might know him as survivor man. His name is less stroud and he is a legend in the nature wildlife and survival communities for good reason you're gonna hear all about that.

Now, I thought we'd be talking all about survival strategies and techniques today, but we immediately took the conversation deeper and covered everything from our disagreements on the Boy Scouts new ruling, allowing girls, why women sometimes tend to be better survivalist and what gets in men's way.

Our responsibility to contribute to society in the three ways that we can, what the quote unquote joy of completion means and how to harness it in our lives and ultimately how to become our own survivor man in every facet of life.

You're a man of action. You live life to the fullest, embrace your fears, and boldly charge your own path. When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time every time. You are not easily deterred, defeated, rugged, resilient, strong. This is your life. This is who you are. This is who you will become. At the end of the day and after all is said and done, you can call yourself a man.

Men, it's gonna be back with you again today. My name is Ryan McClure. If you're new to the podcast, this is a show designed to give you the tools, technique, strategies, conversations, and resources. You need to step up more fully as a man, whether your father, a husband, a business owner, a community leader, whatever facet of life you're showing up. I want to give you what you need. It's my job to empower you in this really strange and crazy and frankly insane society that continues to undermine and dismiss masculinity, manliness and what it means to me.

We are celebrating it. We are honoring it. Most importantly, we are fostering it. I've got a great conversation lined up with less strut today. Before I get into that, I just want to make a very quick mention that we've got our free battle ready program available to you. It's been available for a while. We've had tens of thousands of men go through it at this point and have tremendous success in improving their own lives. You're going to learn how to create a vision, identify four key objectives in your life. Start to learn.

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He's very, very popular for his award winning TV show Survivor Man, but he's dedicated his life to understanding nature and wildlife and the outdoors and frankly our relationship with them. And he's been featured on just about every imaginable channel from discovery to Nat Geo and appearances on Ellen and Jimmy Fallon and Larry King live. He's been everywhere.

He's incredibly capable in the great outdoors. He's a deep thinker as you're going to hear in our conversation and also an avid teacher of all things nature and how to survive anything life may have to throw it your way. So I enjoyed this conversation. I know you guys will as well.

Less what's going on man great to see today. Hey, thank you very much. Yeah, I've been looking forward to it. I've been following you for a while and admittedly I'm not in the survival outdoor space, although I see a huge need for it. And I'm constantly trying to improve my abilities as a man and being able to survive and being creative and all of these things that you do as a crucial component of this.

Well, thank you. I think it's I don't know how much manliness I like to ascribe to it. I think it definitely gets kind of lumped in if you will with that sort of ambiance of thought, I suppose.

But you know, it's still it's a good rugged, outdoorsy thing to be involved in that's for sure.

But what makes you say that you don't know how much manliness is associated with it because we're not here's my perspective as I hear it. And I think our job as men is to protect and provide and we run into natural disasters and violent encounters and situations like this and being capable of doing that to me is a very manly or masculine attribute.

And so what you really have to do then is to find manly and define masculine. But I think as far as the attribute itself is is not limited simply to those of us with with lots of testosterone.

In fact, in fact, as a survival instructor, I can tell you that that you know, taking people out in the wilderness.

The majority of the time any women that I would take out often did much better than the men.

What do you describe that to because I've talked with professional shooters, for example, those who train firearms, firearms instructors and they will actually say similar things. So what do you attribute that comment to that women often do better in some of these situations.

Well, it's tricky. I think if I look think back on my examples that I might have, I think maybe there's a bit of an expectation on us as the guys in the scenario to be, you know, wildernessy and we're all little Jeremiah Johnson's kind of thing.

And whereas the women show up on a course like this, they don't that that burden is not laid on them. If anything, they're outliers and what are you doing here kind of thing.

So they come with a I think maybe a sense of calmness and of course when it comes to wilderness survival and perhaps start shooting as well.

A sense of calmness is really vital.

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