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Les Claypool and Sean Lennon Tell All

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Rolling Stone

Music, Music Interviews, Music Commentary

4.01.1K Ratings

🗓️ 26 February 2026

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Primus' Les Claypool and Sean Lennon go deep on The Great Parrot-Ox and the Golden Egg of Empathy, the just-announced new album from their supergroup, The Lennon Claypool Delirium. They also talk about Rush, how they recruited Willow for the album, AI music, prog-rock, and much more in a conversation with host Brian Hiatt. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Brian Hyatt. This is Rolling Stone Music Now. I've always loved supergroups and one of the best

0:06.8

supergroups out there right now is a duo. Les Claypool of Primus and Sean Lennon, and together they are

0:14.3

the Claypool Lennon Delirium. They've made some great music together over the past decade.

0:18.9

And they have a new album just announced, The Golden

0:21.4

Egg of Empathy, which is out May 1st, a full-on concept album that comes complete with a 24-page

0:27.5

comic book. It's a really ambitious and enjoyable piece of work, and to talk about that album

0:32.7

and a whole lot more I have with me, Les Claypool and Sean Lennon. You guys are so good together that, you know, it's been a while since you made an album together. You both do so much good stuff in other contexts, but there's something about this partnership that feels so special to me that I almost wonder if you thought you were underplaying it with your time that you should be doing it even more than you're doing it. I mean, I feel like it took us the entire time that we, since our last record, to make this record. So it's not like we weren't working on it. Over three years in the making. Wow. This was the hardest record I've ever made in my entire life, which, I mean, you know, not in a bad way. It was just, it was, you know, we were building the pyramids. It was a monumental undertaking and accomplishment.

1:14.0

I think, I just saw the video today, the first video, and it makes me want

1:30.3

we definitely we are hopefully going to reap all the sewing because we did a lot of sewing

1:37.3

I think the basically that we wanted it to be a story added another layer of

1:43.3

difficulty that I'd actually never dealt with before. I mean,

1:47.2

I've always wanted to do a record that was like a full concept album, but I didn't realize

1:52.8

how much harder that is to do because, you know, it's hard enough to write a bunch of good

1:57.6

songs, but to make them all sort of fit a narrative was really hard,

2:02.5

but also really fun in the end.

2:04.4

And then when you think it's done and Shiner re-records all of his vocals, that adds another

2:13.4

layer of...

2:15.4

Well, people will thank us. People will thank us.

2:17.9

We'll thank us later.

2:19.1

Trust me.

2:21.2

Why did you do that, Sean?

2:23.4

I think there's like a dynamic between Les and I were, which is actually really great,

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