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Leonard Wong on Honesty and Ethics in the Military

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🗓️ 27 April 2015

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Leonard Wong of the Strategic Studies Institute at the U.S. Army War College talks with EconTalk host Russ Roberts about honesty in the military. Based on a recent co-authored paper, Wong argues that the paperwork and training burden on U.S. military officers requires dishonesty--it is simply impossible to comply with all the requirements. This creates a tension for an institution that prides itself on honesty, trust, and integrity. The conversation closes with suggestions for how the military might reform the compliance and requirement process.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Econ Talk, part of the Library of Economics and Liberty.

0:06.4

I'm your host, Russ Roberts of Stanford University's Hoover Institution.

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0:25.4

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Today is April 15th, 2015, and my guest is Leonard Wong, a research professor in the Strategic

0:39.2

Studies Institute at the United States Army War College.

0:43.2

He is the author with Stephen Garris of a recent paper on military culture, lying to ourselves

0:49.2

dishonesty in the Army profession, which is our topic for today.

0:53.5

Lenny, welcome to Econ Talk.

0:55.2

Thanks, Russ.

0:56.2

I'm going to start with a quote from the summary of the paper.

1:00.2

It says the following.

1:02.7

This study found that many Army officers after repeated exposure to the overwhelming demands

1:07.9

and the associated need to put their honor on the line to verify compliance have become

1:13.2

ethically numb.

1:15.2

As a result, an officer's signature and word have become tools to maneuver through the

1:20.0

Army bureaucracy rather than being symbols of integrity and honesty.

1:23.7

Sadly, much of the deception that occurs in the profession of arms is encouraged and sanctioned

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