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The New Yorker Radio Hour

Leonard Cohen: A Final Interview

The New Yorker Radio Hour

WNYC Studios and The New Yorker

Politics, Arts, News, Wnyc, Books, David, Storytelling, Society & Culture, Yorker, New, Remnick

4.26.2K Ratings

🗓️ 26 December 2017

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Leonard Cohen was one of the world’s greatest songwriters, and a figure of almost cult-like devotion for generations of fans, including Bob Dylan. David Remnick sat down with Cohen in the summer of 2016, at the musician’s home in Los Angeles to discuss Cohen’s career, his spiritual influences, his triumphant final tours, and what he was doing to prepare for his end. “I am ready to die,” Cohen said. He was already suffering from a number of health problems at the time and died in November 2016. “At a certain point, if you still have your marbles and are not faced with serious financial challenges, you have a chance to put your house in order. It’s a cliché, but it’s underestimated as an analgesic on all levels. Putting your house in order, if you can do it, is one of the most comforting activities, and the benefits of it are incalculable.” Plus, a 1952 poem by E.B. White brings Christmas greetings to misfits and oddballs the world over.

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0:00.0

This is the New Yorker Radio Hour.

0:09.0

I'm David Remnick.

0:11.1

Like a bird on the wire.

0:18.4

Like a drunken night choir

0:22.5

I have tried in my way

0:28.5

To be free

0:31.0

Last year I spent a few days with the songwriter Leonard Cohen

0:35.8

Cohen had been avoiding interviews for the past

0:38.5

four or five, six years, but once he agreed to talk, we talk for days and covered the length

0:43.9

and breadth of his career. And I'm grateful that I had the chance to visit when I did because

0:49.9

not long after, Leonard Cohen died at the age of 82.

1:01.0

Cohen once wrote a song called The Tower of Song, in which he compared himself really unfavorably to Hank Williams. But along with the other masters, Bob Dylan certainly,

1:06.2

Joni Mitchell, Kanye West, everybody's got their own list. Leonard Cohen is way up there

1:10.8

in the ranks of songwriters.

1:14.0

When I visited him in Los Angeles, he was suffering from a number of very serious illnesses,

1:18.8

although he was keeping that very, very private.

1:21.3

He was in deep pain, especially from compression fractures in his spine,

1:25.3

and he had to sit in a big blue medical chair. He was very thin,

1:28.8

maybe 110 pounds at the most. But I have to say that he was in an abullient mood somehow

1:34.2

for a man who knew where life was taking him, and it was going to take him there in a hurry.

1:39.5

He was the most gracious host, this side of my mother.

1:43.9

Would you like a few slices of cheese and olives?

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