This is Lou Elizondo and you are listening to That UFO podcast.

Very quickly, I want to ask, how often when you were looking at material as part of the task force, would you see material from orbit or above, like, space?

Not too often. No. Most of the stuff was, it was ground observation or air observation.

That's pretty much where it was.

Is there a reason for that? Because I think when you think of the UFO topic, a lot of folks would think

you're going to have these super sophisticated satellites and things in orbit and you'd be getting all that material. Or is it just

the case that you tend to be getting things from a military point of view? It's ground-based

observation like you say. Fighter pilots, jets, that's... That's 100% in. That's what we were,

you know, because here's how I would liken it.

Those, those things are mostly, it's an individual.

Usually if it's something that's a satellite, that's an organization.

Yeah, good, yeah, good call.

So they're not going to be like, oh, by the way, we don't know what this is.

It's going to be within that organization or whatever.

It's like NASA hasn't come into Logan to say, can you have a look at this for us?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Right. That makes sense.

So that's why I think the majority of the stuff was, you know, it's either a ground observation or an air observation.

And the best observation is even if you're a fighter pilot

doing this one thing, if there's other fighter pilots or commercial aircraft out there at the same

time, let's see the same thing. Better. Yeah. Regarding all this data, one of the big arguments it's been had so often is the fact that the US government or organizations within it would plead transparency. I think people laugh at any government going on about transparency. But organizations like Arrow saying they're going to be transparent

and information can come out to the public.

Yet we don't get a whole lot being released.

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