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The Good Fight

Lenore Skenazy on Rejecting Helicopter Parenting

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.6907 Ratings

🗓️ 14 June 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Yascha Mounk and Lenore Skenazy discuss why kids should take risks.  After letting her 9-year-old ride the New York City subway alone—and creating a media firestorm—Lenore Skenazy wrote the book, “Free-Range Kids.” Lenore is also a co-founder of Let Grow. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Lenore Skenazy explore why parents are reluctant to let their children take risks, how unsupervised activities help children learn, and how to embrace giving your kids independence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The reason I get so hyper about this topic is that you can't have a culture that is making its decisions, its laws,

0:40.0

and even its incarcerations based on a lie, which is that a kid going into the store

0:46.6

is going to die, a kid playing at the park with a bunch of other people around during the

0:51.2

day is going to be kidnapped, or a child walking home from a store

0:56.1

is likely not to make it and therefore it's such a horrible mother we got a teacher a lesson in jail.

1:02.0

And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.

1:18.6

In my childhood it was perfectly normal for me to walk to school when I was seven or eight,

1:26.1

to sort of roam around Munich when I was growing up there when I was 12, 13 years old.

1:34.4

Today, it is increasingly rare for children to be afforded that amount of autonomy. The amount of free play they have with other people their age has plummeted. Sometimes

1:40.1

parents who allow their kids to walk to town a mile away in a safe rural area to buy something and come back might even find the cops at their door arresting them when they make their way home.

1:57.4

Well, to talk about the trend towards helicopter parenting, why it is so dangerous when kids

2:05.8

can't develop autonomy, when they can't fend for themselves out in the world and go and

2:11.1

have some unstructured time with their friends.

2:13.6

And what we can do about all of that, I invited Linor Schoenese.

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