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Singletracks Mountain Bike Podcast

Lennard Zinn makes the case for chain waxing (and 36-inch wheels, too)

Singletracks Mountain Bike Podcast

Singletracks.com

Wilderness, Sports

4.7574 Ratings

🗓️ 1 October 2024

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

Lennard Zinn is a bike designer and frame builder based in Louisville, Colorado. His shop, Zinn Cycles, offers "a full line of semi-custom and off the shelf bikes for riders from very small to very tall and everyone in-between." He’s also the author of Zinn and the Art of Mountain Bike Maintenance, one of the world’s best-selling guides to mountain bike repair.

In this first-half of our podcast discussion, Zinn talks about drivetrain maintenance, focusing on chains and lubrication. Later in the show we talk about the benefits of big 32-, 36-inch, and 750d bike wheels and designing bikes for riders both tall and small.

Understanding bike chain wear and elongation 0:00

  • Chain wear is caused by dirt and oil-based lubricant sticking to the chain, creating a grinding paste that wears down the rollers, bushings, and pins.
  • Zinn describes how the chain's inner links are made.
  • The chain's flexibility increases as the bushings and plates wear, affecting shifting performance.
  • A chain's lateral stiffness is crucial for proper shifting, and a worn chain can cause skipping during shifting.

Chain elongation and its effects 6:46

  • Zinn discusses how a chain's elongation affects its performance, particularly when the distance between rollers exceeds the half-inch standard.
  • He explains that a worn chain can misshape the cassette's teeth, leading to skipping and poor shifting.
  • Chain checkers can be used to ensure the chain's length is within spec to prevent cassette wear.

Lubrication and its impact on chain wear 22:35

  • Zinn explains that a dry chain will wear faster due to friction, while lubrication helps reduce wear but can attract dirt.
  • He discusses the differences between factory lube and other lubricants, noting that factory lube is designed for machinery, not for low friction on the bike.
  • Zinn recommends using a cleaner to remove factory lube before applying chain lube.
  • He introduces the concept of chain waxing, which involves immersing the chain in molten wax to create a low-friction, clean-running chain.
  • Zinn shares the benefits of chain waxing, including reduced noise, lower friction, and longer chain life.

Chain waxing process and benefits 35:43

  • Zinn describes the process of chain waxing, including the need for a clean jar of mineral spirits and denatured alcohol for cleaning the chain.
  • He mentions the cost-effectiveness of chain waxing compared to replacing chains frequently.

Wheel sizes and their applications 1:03:20

  • Zinn discusses the advantages of larger wheels for tall riders like 32-, 36-inch, and 750d wheels, noting that 32-inch wheels can make a bike look proportionally sized.
  • He explains the challenges of using larger wheels, such as increased weight and the lack of suspension forks.
  • Zinn mentions the development of new carbon rims and tires for larger wheels, which could improve their performance and weight.
  • Barber asks about the feasibility of using suspension forks with larger wheels, and Zinn confirms that rigid forks are the only option.

Challenges in designing bikes for small riders 1:16:58

  • Barber asks about the challenges of scaling bikes for smaller riders, and Zinn explains the limitations due to the need for certain components.
  • Zinn highlights the importance of proportional design, where larger wheels can make a bike look more proportionate for tall riders.
  • He discusses the ergonomic issues for small riders, such as wider Q-factors and shorter steerer tubes on forks.
  • Zinn mentions the UCI's weight limit in road racing as an example of how smaller riders are often disadvantaged.

Modern trends in bike design and their impact 1:18:46

  • Zinn highlights the shortening of steerer tubes on forks which can be a problem for taller riders.
  • He discusses the trend of wider rear ends in modern bikes, which can be detrimental to smaller riders due to increased Q-factor.

Find out more about the chain waxing service and bikes discussed in this episode at zinncycles.com.

Transcript

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Hey everybody, welcome to the single tracks podcast. My name is Jeff and today my guest is Leonard

0:36.1

Zen. Leonard is a bike designer and frame builder based in Louisville, Colorado.

0:42.5

His shop, Zin Cycles, offers a full line of semi-custom and off-the-shelf bikes for riders from very small to very tall and everyone in between.

0:52.9

He's also the author of Zen and the art of mountain bike maintenance, one of the world's

0:58.0

best-selling guides to mountain bike repair.

1:00.9

Thanks for joining us again, Leonard.

1:03.2

Thank you.

1:03.7

So I want to start this discussion by talking about drive trains, specifically, obviously,

1:10.0

bike chains. What causes a chain to wear?

1:15.0

Well, generally what happens most chains is that is that there's lubricant on there,

1:22.0

oil-based lubricant, and dirt sticks to it. So dirt gets into the chain and you have this mixture that basically is a grinding compound of this mixture of dirt and sand.

1:39.1

And then as the chain moves, it's just grinding away at the parts.

1:45.0

And you have rollers and bushings and pins.

1:49.2

And as those get worn down, then the chain gets longer.

1:53.9

We talk about chain stretch, but chains don't stretch.

1:57.2

It's just that there's all this wear in there, which is just making it get longer.

2:04.9

Oh, interesting. So is it like the rollers or the like those things kind of elongating? Or like what

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