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Hi, Kara.

That doesn't look like jail.

That's why I needed to talk to you.

Kara, I'm just, I'm going to have a serious moment for a while and then you can go and be your care

but you know, you know you are, you're among my counsel, right?

You are among my, what do you call it?

Board of Directors, especially for my life.

And so one of the main people I wanted to talk to after this happened was you.

And I'm like, well, I wonder what Kara would say about this. And I wonder what advice she might give me. So you go where you want to go on that. Tell me. Oh, well, we talked about it, you know, on Pivot, too, you know, what you had done. And you would, Scott and I have been really supportive of everything you've done since then, in terms of doing independent journalism and, etc.

You know, the idea of you getting out there, supportive of everything you've done since then in terms of doing independent journalism and

etc you know the idea of you getting out there your man in the street stuff where you stick the

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