LEMON DROP | Breaking the System: Policing in America

The Don Lemon Show

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🗓️ 15 May 2025

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Don sits down with the authors of Cop Cop: Breaking the Fixed System of American Policing for a powerful conversation about what's really broken in U.S. law enforcement and how we start to fix it. From entrenched culture to lack of accountability, they unpack how the system too often protects itself instead of the people it serves...and how marginalized communities bear the brunt of the consequences. What would real reform look like? And is it even possible without completely rethinking the role of police in American society? It’s honest, urgent, and a conversation we need right now. This episode is brought to you by the Freedom From Religion Foundation. Go to FFRF.US/Freedom or text DON to 511 511 and become a member today. This episode of The Don Lemon Show is sponsored by 120 Life. Go to https://120life.com and use the code, “D-O-N ” to save 20% This episode is brought to you by Beam. Visit https://shopbeam.com/LEMON and use code LEMON to get our exclusive discount of up to 40% off. This episode of The Don Lemon Show is sponsored by Wild Alaskan. Go to wildalaskan.com/LEMON for $35 off your first box of premium, wild-caught seafood. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:47.0	I have a question for you.
0:48.9	Who watches the watchman?
0:50.8	Who watches the watchman?
0:52.0	Who polices the police?
0:56.3	Who are the police of the police?
1:01.6	In New York City, it is the CCRB. It's a civilian complaint review board. You may have heard about it, even if you don't live in New York City. It is an independent agency that investigates
1:05.3	allegations of misconduct by members of the NYPD. My guest today spent eight years as senior investigators for the
1:13.7	CCRB and my own mind, do they have some stories. And I can't wait to hear them speak and also
1:20.6	speak about some not only the problems, but possible solutions as well. Greg Finch is here and
1:26.2	McMure as well. They're the authors of
1:28.2	Cop Cop Cop, Breaking the Fixed System of American Policing. Gentlemen, thank you for joining.
1:34.5	Thanks so much. Thanks for Admas. Okay, so listen, I understand that you interviewed, I think,
1:39.2	well over 10, well over 1,000 police officers, hundreds of victims of misconduct in the process of writing
1:45.0	this book. So let's start with your analysis, your sort of, you know, 30,000 feet or 10,000 feet
1:51.0	or whatever. What is wrong with policing in America? Well, there are a lot of things wrong with
1:59.5	policing in America right now. But one of the purposes of our book is to look at this, kind of like we would, if you ask, what's wrong with America right now?
2:08.4	And the answer is going to be different from Idaho to Los Angeles, to New York, to Dallas.
2:13.3	And the same is true in policing.
2:14.9	Policing is more of a regional and hyper-local phenomenon that I think we give it credit for
2:21.1	when we've had these mass protest movements.
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