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entrepreneurs like you. Sign up for your $1 a month trial at Shopify.com slash setup. So, you know, recently Donald Trump has made this exception where he says, you know, he doesn't want immigration, but now he wants it, especially if it is white people, white Afrikaners, as a matter of fact.

He's allowing white South African farmersers, as a matter of fact, he's allowing white

South African farmers, giving them a fast track to come into the country. They're claiming that

they are victims of, quote, unjust racial discrimination and genocide. As a matter of fact, I

spoke to, I'm going to play this before I bring in my next guest, I spoke to Elon Musk about this a year ago.

He brought it up on his own. I was surprised. Here it is. South Africa, I mean, look at what happened with apartheid.

You should, it seems to me that you should be someone who is more understanding of that, considering where you came from, considering your history.

Yeah. There's a slow white genocide going on in South Africa. Do you care about that?

So that was Elon Musk a year ago saying there was a slow white genocide going on in South

Africa and asking me if I care about it. So what is going on here? Is there any truth to that?

Is it a racist conspiracy or fear-mongering? What is it?

So to get to the bottom of this, I wanted to speak to an expert, someone who can actually report

on what's going on in South Africa, and that is Simon Allison, the co-founder of the

Contentant Magazine based in Johannesburg. Thank you for joining us.

Hi, they're done. So when you hear that,

and Donald Trump, our president here in the United States, also claiming that, is there a white

genocide going on in South Africa? And if not, where is this notion coming from?

Well, Don, if there is a slow genocide of white people going on in South Africa, as Elon Musk claims,

it is very, very, very slow. I wrote some statistics down. One, that's the number of farmers that were killed in the last quarter of last year in South Africa.

And of course, all this has to do with the alleged persecution and violence against white Afrikaner farmers that is apparently such a scourge in our society that the United

States is having to sort of bend all its rules, hire private planes to bring these persecuted

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