Before you listen to this BBC podcast, I'd like to introduce myself.

My name's Stevie Middleton and I'm a BBC Commissioner for a load of sport podcasts.

I'm lucky to do that at the BBC because I get to work with a leading journalist, experienced

pundits and the biggest sport stars.

Together we bring you untold stories and fascinating insights straight from the players'

mouths.

But the best thing about doing this at the BBC is our unique access to the sport world.

What that means is that we can bring you podcasts that create a real connection to

dedicated sports fans across the UK.

So if you like this podcast, head over to BBC Sounds where you'll find plenty more.

Hello and welcome to Midnight Meets, I'm Colin Murray and since the summer of 2020 I've been

sitting down with guests as part of my late night BBC 5 live show which airs from half

10 to 1 week days and having a good honest long form chat with my guests.

Now there's no sick criteria for who joins me, it can be music, sport, politics,

other, anything but each and every one of them of course I look for a story that needs to

be told in a much longer format than just a five minute interview or a short sound bite.

This particular episode, Lim Sisset is a phenomenal man of words, he is a poet and a playwright

and a broadcaster and a speaker and a BAFTA nominated NBA official poet of the London 2012

Olympic Games, Chancellor of the University of Manchester, winner of the Penn Pinter Prize,

it's just a huge lesson.

When he was in his teens he printed his first poetry pamphlet and sold it the striking minors.

At that stage he'd already lived a life of trauma, his mum moved from Ethiopia to the UK and

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