This is Rumbull Strip, I'm Erica Heilman.

Right now, we are sitting in my driveway.

A car in a truck parked next to each other and a swiffer duct taped to another piece of metal holding the microphone into my vehicle.

And you give it what kind of grade in terms of Magyber points?

It's a sea.

Why?

It's a passing grade. It works.

That's my friend Leland. I met him when he was in first grade and he came over to play with my son Henry.

For six years now, Leland and I have been having a yearly conversation

about how he's doing and what he's thinking about.

This year he started at the Central Vermont Career Center,

which is a technical education school.

He was never big on regular school, even though he knows more about geography than I'll ever know.

Leland lives in an old farmhouse on a dirt road looking down over Peek and Brook in Callis.

I drove over and I sat in my car and he sat in a truck that he's ripping the flatbed off of.

And both of us didn't have a lot to say in that way that a lot of us

don't have a lot to say right now with so much that's so uncertain. Here's

Leeland. This is a massive change this year to be at CVCC. Are you happy you did it or doing it?

I got into the building trades class for next year and right now I'm liking it a whole lot more than I liked you 32 so

And what was what is the difference in the way that you relate to the teachers in this

setting different from regular school that that you I mean how would you just

characterize the difference? You get more, there's more down time where you can interact with the teachers other than just

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