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From the Tet Audio Collective, this is Design Matters with Debbie Milman.

On Design Matters, Debbie talks with some of the most creative people in the world about

what they do, how they got to be who they are, and what they're thinking about and working on.

On this episode, Catherine Minnick and Lisa Haley of the L Word talk about their long friendship

and how they've persevered in the business of show business.

I mean, that's the crux of how you survive in this business or not.

I mean, we still battle it today.

Follompeer is being spoke for choice Fullum Pier is

Being sport for choice in a riverside food hall

And playing with interactive art

Tree pose with river views

Barely laughing at local comedians

Kids dancing at a toddler disco

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