4.8 • 689 Ratings
🗓️ 13 June 2020
⏱️ 24 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
In this audio interview, CoinDesk’s Leigh Cuen and adult content creator Allie Awesome talk about payments and money in the sex industry, especially the trends impacted by the coronavirus crisis. From how porn performers and entrepreneurs deal with Bitcoin Twitter to the ways the pandemic changed our digital sex lives, Cuen and Allie explore what actually drives demand for censorship-resistant systems.
This episode is sponsored by Bitstamp and Ciphertrace.
The biggest problem? Allie and other performers and sex workers basically have their digital advertising and distribution platforms controlled by third parties that aren’t responsible to the workers. For example, OnlyFans briefly froze Allie’s account earlier this year. Although she regained access, her distribution conduits remain at the mercy of tech platforms. This is where peer-to-peer transactions come in. Allie said she knows how to use a cryptocurrency wallet and would gladly do so if more customers wanted to pay her directly. The fact is those customers are few and far between.
“To those people who want to come up with a solution, my first question is ‘well, are you paying for porn’?” she said. “I think a lot of people want to make money off of ‘adult’, but they aren’t really willing to invest in ‘adult’”.
See also: Why Lightning Payments Aren’t Clicking for Porn Companies (Just Yet)
Another major issue according to Allie, is an increase in traffic or visibility doesn’t always translate to profits. Plus, many crypto fans see her industry as something they want to profit from, by building their own tech solutions, rather than contribute to experienced performers. Compared to other bitcoin or ether holders, sex workers are even more likely to rely on social networks like Twitter than exchanges like Coinbase, which deplatforms them just like Paypal. Performers require either a high degree of technical skill, to use decentralized exchange (DEX) platforms like Bisq, or a de facto social liquidity network in order to use cryptocurrency without trusting third parties. Allie shares why she is excited about cryptocurrency, even if it’s a challenge to use it for censorship resistance.
See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
0:00.0 | Audible brings your wildest adventures to life, delivering heart-pounding thrills at the touch |
0:05.8 | of a button. |
0:07.0 | Take Richard Osmond's The Thursday Murder Club, where four retirees turned amateur sleuths |
0:11.8 | solve crimes in the most unexpected ways, brilliantly performed by Leslie Manville. |
0:17.1 | Ready to unleash your adventure aside, from pulse racing suspense to epic quests, from supernatural |
0:22.6 | chills to far-off romances, every story comes alive through world-class narration. |
0:28.5 | Explore exclusive audible originals, chart-topping new releases, and unforgettable bestsellers |
0:34.4 | that transport you from the very first word, because the next great |
0:38.2 | adventure is just a listener way. |
0:40.8 | Start your free 30-day trial at audible.com slash Wondery, UK. |
0:45.6 | That's audible.com slash Wondery, UK. |
0:51.6 | I'm cool with Bitcoin, Twitter. like when the only fans thing happened, and people were like, well, this is why we need to marry adult in crypto. |
1:04.0 | So I'm like, yes. |
1:06.0 | I think a lot of people want to make money off of adults, but they aren't really willing to invest in adult. |
1:15.1 | Kind of like that JFK quote, like to ask not what Allie can do for you. |
1:22.7 | Today's episode is brought to you by BitStamp and CipherTrace. |
1:26.2 | Hello, I'm Coin desk reporter Lee Quinn, here with adult content creator, Ali Awesome. |
1:31.6 | We're here to talk today about money in the sex industry and how the world is changing due to the coronavirus crisis. |
1:37.5 | Thanks for joining us today, Ali. |
1:39.4 | Thank you so much. |
1:40.9 | It's so great to be here. |
1:42.4 | So can you just start us off by introducing yourself |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from CoinDesk, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of CoinDesk and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.