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Our guest tonight was recommended by the one and only deplorable Janet from deplorable nation and I

looked on your Instagram and realized you already followed us so I'm like oh okay well we got to connect

now she so it's called unfiltered rises her podcast but her main thing that stuck out to me

and this is not to rag on Mormons, but a little bit.

She used to be in what she calls the Mormon cult.

And if you know anything about Mormonism, this is what I know.

Some dude found some plates and that only he could read and then people believed him.

And here we are.

Is that a rough estimation of what happened?

I think there was a lot of culttymore stuff but I think angels came down

and he kind of channeled it like John D

but they'll tell you the other part. They'll tell you

that story. What you

said? What else? Oh, okay.

So there was angels involved. Yeah, they'll tell you the good part.

Yeah, there really was angels involved. It makes it more legit. It makes it more legit if there's angels involved.

Yeah, it's like every religion has. Yeah, everyone has a weird story. There's no religion that's like, well, one day we just sat down and said, how can we control the masses? And then we wrote this book. No, you got to have a good backstory. You got to sell it. You got to have a backstory so everybody believes it. And the weird thing is that I have a couple Mormon friends.

I don't think they listen to the show. If they do, sorry. But it's, it's kind of weird.

That's what I say to everyone. Yeah. They follow the Bible, kind of. But then there's the book of Mormon, which is what, an addendum to the Bible, and that's the magic plates. Yeah. And it's also completely unbiblical to do that. In

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