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Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast

Legendary First Amendment Lawyer Floyd Abrams On The Fox-Dominion Settlement

Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast

WNYC Studios

History, Politics, Public, 2020, Journalism, News, Wnyc, News Commentary, Daily News, Brian, Lehrer, Radio, Daily, Election

4.4675 Ratings

🗓️ 19 April 2023

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

After Dominion's settlement over Fox News's false claims in its coverage of the 2020 election and the company's voting machines, we look at the limits of a free press.

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0:00.0

from WNYC studios. I'm Brian Lehrer. This is my daily politics podcast. It's Wednesday, April 19th.

0:15.0

So what do you think about the settlement between Fox News and the Dominion Voting Machine Company?

0:20.5

Was Fox held accountable for spreading

0:23.8

lies about the 2020 election, even though they knew the statements to be false? Fox will pay

0:29.3

Dominion more than $750 million, but it only admits to airing things that were false, not for doing it,

0:36.8

knowing those things were false. Those

0:39.0

things matter, that difference matters. So is this real justice that will make it harder for Fox or

0:44.3

others to lie to try and overturn true election outcomes in next year's presidential elections

0:50.4

and other future elections? Or is the message here that settling a lawsuit is just

0:56.2

the cost of doing business if your goal is ending democracy for fun and profit?

1:01.5

Here's the president of Dominion voting machines, John Paulos, just after the settlement was

1:06.4

announced.

1:07.6

Fox and Dominion have reached an historic settlement. Fox has admitted to telling lies about Dominion that caused enormous damage to my company,

1:17.6

our employees, and the customers that we serve.

1:20.6

Nothing can ever make up for that.

1:23.6

Throughout this process, we have sought accountability and believe the evidence brought to light through this case underscores the consequences of spreading lies.

1:35.3

Maybe. But what are the consequences for the fake news conspiracy theory echo chamber, when Fox itself hardly reported the settlement

1:46.6

to its own viewers, those Americans most likely to believe in the lies. Another question,

1:52.6

kind of an opposite one. Are there any consequences for freedom of the press when a news

1:57.9

organization is held legally liable for speech that it chooses to air, true or not.

2:03.6

We'll talk about the settlement now with the legendary First Amendment lawyer Floyd Abrams,

2:08.2

who has long represented media companies, including the New York Times,

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