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Legally Brunette

Legally Brunette: The Evil in Equestrianism

Legally Brunette

iHeartPodcasts

True Crime

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2026

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Olympic dressage competitor Michael Barisone shot his student, Lauren Kanarek, in 2019 after a year of tension and alleged harassment. Though Lauren was the victim, do Emily and Shane believe she’s entirely innocent? 

Was Michael’s “temporary insanity” case valid, considering he still looked mentally unstable two years after the shooting?! 

Plus, what did they think about the Netflix documentary on this case? Do others agree that Lauren isn’t the most likable?!

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.6

Guaranteed Human.

0:06.0

Hi, guys.

0:06.9

Welcome to an episode of Legally Brunette.

0:08.9

I will be your host today, Emily Simpson, with my husband's sidekick, whatever you are.

0:14.9

What are you?

0:16.0

I'm Shane.

0:16.9

Shane.

0:17.6

Just Shane.

0:18.9

Today we're going to be talking about, and this was a recommendation from you guys, which

0:22.1

I truly, truly appreciate.

0:23.8

It is called The Shooting at Hawthorne Hill, and I had not heard of it until you guys had

0:29.1

DM me a few times and told me that we should discuss it.

0:32.3

So we're going to discuss it.

0:34.7

And actually, I'm really happy that I started watching it and that we're going to discuss it because I kind of, when I was growing up, we had horses and I've ridden dressage. And so, you know, I have a little insight into this horse world that we're about to delve into. Equestrian. The equestrian world.

0:54.9

It's called drosage, though. That's the type, that's the style of riding. I know. He said horse world. Horse world. Horse world. And Shane knows a little because when we first got married, I, um, I know that I know nothing about horses. I, but I had horses. I know that I don't know how to ride one. And I know that they're very expensive.

1:11.7

Yes, he does know that.

1:12.8

What do they say the cheapest thing about buying a horse is buying a horse. No, the cheapest thing about owning a horse is buying a horse. Right. And your dad told me that after we bought a horse. Right. Anyway. All right. So Lauren Canterak is one of the main characters characters in this and she was a dressage writer.

1:30.3

Let's just talk a little bit about dressage if someone doesn't know.

1:33.3

It is a style of writing.

1:35.3

They, when you watch the Olympics and they have writing equestrian in the Olympics, it's dressage.

1:42.3

And it's actually a form of, it goes, it dates back thousands of

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