Legal questions abound as Trump deploys National Guard on LA protestors

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🗓️ 9 June 2025

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President Trump ordered the Pentagon to send around 2,000 National Guard troops to Los Angeles in response to protests against immigration raids in the city. Elizabeth Goitein, senior director of the Liberty and National Security Program at the Brennan Center for Justice, explains the legal implications. Trump ignored California Gov. Gavin Newsom's objections to deploying the National Guard. The last time a president called in the National Guard without the governor's approval was in 1965 during the Selma march. Historian Julian Zelizer explains more. Then, John Ruskey calls the Mississippi River "a creative force" that sculpts the landscape and rejuvenates the people who experience it up close. But climate change is making that force stronger and more destructive. Here & Now's Chris Bentley took a canoe ride with Ruskey and reports on the future of the river.

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0:00.0	Support for here and now anytime comes from MathWorks, creator of MATLAB and Simulink software for technical computing and model-based design.
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0:17.5	WBUR Podcasts, Boston.
0:23.7	Great and more! WBUR Podcasts, Boston. Freedom,
0:24.6	freedom of all,
0:26.9	immigration protesters meet military force
0:31.0	on the streets of L.A.
0:32.8	It's Monday, June 9th,
0:34.2	and this is here at now anytime from NPR and WBUR. I'm Chris Bentley.
0:38.6	Today on the show, when is the president allowed to deploy the National Guard? Also, we'll take a canoe trip down
0:56.9	the Mississippi River, which has shaped the history and the landscape of this country. Now,
1:02.6	with climate change making extreme floods and droughts more common, people are reckoning with
1:08.1	what it means to live with the river. Another 150 years, I'm pretty sure that the river's going to reclaim everything that is lost.
1:15.9	Our series on Mississippi River flooding kicks off in about 10 minutes.
1:20.1	But first, California Governor Gavin Newsom says he's suing the Trump administration for deploying the National Guard to Los Angeles without his consent.
1:29.8	President Trump signed an executive order on Saturday to send 2,000 troops to the area in response to protests
1:35.8	over a string of immigration arrests around the city. On MSNBC this morning, border czar Tom Homan
1:42.2	defended immigration raids on workplaces like hardware stores.
1:46.6	What ICE did the last couple of days is make Los Angeles safer by taking public safety threats off the street.
1:52.5	The Los Angeles Police Department has declared downtown L.A. an unlawful assembly area after the weekend's
1:58.8	protests, which saw some people set fire to several cars and
2:03.1	briefly stopped traffic on the 101 freeway. For more, we called up California Senator Alex Padilla,
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