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🗓️ 12 March 2025
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0:00.0 | Listener supported WNYC Studios. |
0:07.0 | It's the Brian Laira Show on WNYC. Good morning again, everyone. We'll talk in detail now about the |
0:25.2 | detention for deportation of recent Columbia grad school graduate Mahmoud Khalil, a leader of the |
0:31.1 | campus protests there since October 7, 2023, calling for the school to divest from Israel, and he was a lead negotiator with |
0:39.7 | a school when the encampments were taking place last school year. As I mentioned in our previous |
0:45.3 | segment, he is a green card holder, legal permanent residence. He was entering his building |
0:51.1 | where he lives with his eight-month pregnant U.S. citizen wife near Columbia, |
0:56.5 | when ICE agents detained him and put him in an immigrant detention facility, first in New Jersey, |
1:02.5 | and then in Louisiana, to the shock of his wife, who was going to visit him in Jersey, |
1:07.4 | will focus on the legal aspects of the attempt to deport him, as well as what anyone |
1:12.6 | thinks is right or wrong. The case is in court today. My guest on the legal angle is Peter |
1:18.5 | Markowitz, law professor at the Cardoza Law School and co-director of the Catherine Greenberg |
1:23.5 | Immigration Justice Clinic there. Professor Markowitz, thanks for coming on for this. Welcome to |
1:28.2 | WNYC. Thank you for having me, Brian, and thank you for shining a light on this important issue. |
1:34.6 | Is Mahmoud Khalil accused of committing a crime? I'm glad you started there because the answer is no. |
1:41.6 | We have to be a little careful because there's limited information in the public record so far. |
1:48.0 | And so I'm sure we'll learn more in the days to come and maybe even in the hearing that's going on right now. |
1:54.0 | But from everything we know so far, it is very clear that the charges against him are civil immigration charges. That is, he's not been |
2:03.6 | accused of any acts of violence, not been accused of any criminality, no incitement to violence. |
2:09.3 | It appears based on some conversation between his attorney and an ICE agent that he may be |
2:17.4 | charged as removable, that's the formal |
2:20.2 | term for deportation, under kind of a very infrequently used provision that purports to give the |
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