4.9 • 2.5K Ratings
🗓️ 21 September 2025
⏱️ 71 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
This week on Brown Ambition, Mandi sits down with Cheryl McKissick Daniel — President and CEO of McKissick & McKissick, the oldest Black- and women-owned design and construction firm in the U.S. With five generations of legacy behind her, Cheryl has literally changed skylines while paving the way for women and people of color in an industry that wasn’t built for us.
In this inspiring conversation, Cheryl shares:
The journey behind her new book, The Black Family Who Built America: The McKissicks, Two Centuries of Daring Pioneers.
How her mother courageously took over the family business after tragedy struck.
Lessons from navigating a male- and white-dominated industry while building relationships and leading with integrity.
The power of resilience, prayer, and community when starting from scratch in New York.
Personal stories of overcoming health scares and why legacy and family history matter more than ever.
From stories of scrappy entrepreneurship in a Manhattan walk-up to multimillion-dollar projects like the Barclays Center and JFK Airport, Cheryl offers both blueprint and inspiration for anyone determined to build their own table—and their own legacy.
Key Takeaways:
Legacy isn’t inherited, it’s built—brick by brick, generation by generation.
Relationships and integrity are as valuable as technical skills in business.
Women have always been at the forefront of resilience and innovation, even when history tries to erase them.
Creating your own family tree can be a powerful way to honor where you’ve come from and inspire the next generation.
Resources & Mentions:
Cheryl McKissick Daniel’s book: The Black Family Who Built America
McKissick & McKissick projects: Barclays Center, Harlem Hospital Center, JFK Terminal One
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | This is an IHeart podcast. |
| 0:06.4 | I'm Marcus Grant. |
| 0:07.9 | And I'm Michael Florio, and together we host the NFL fantasy football podcast. |
| 0:13.1 | Ready to dominate your fantasy league this season? |
| 0:15.8 | Then you need the NFL fantasy football podcast, your ultimate source for player news, draft tips, and winning strategies. |
| 0:22.7 | Whether you're a rookie manager or a fantasy vet. |
| 0:25.6 | We've got the insight to help you crush your opponents. |
| 0:28.5 | Listen to the NFL Fantasy Football podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 0:36.9 | Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL. |
| 0:39.6 | Visit Toyota.com slash NFL now to learn more. |
| 0:42.5 | What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi. |
| 0:46.5 | Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why? |
| 0:53.2 | Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies. |
| 0:56.6 | From prologue projects and Pushkin Industries, this is Fiasco, Benghazi. |
| 1:01.9 | What difference at this point does it make? |
| 1:05.5 | Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi, on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 1:17.0 | Hey, VA fam. Welcome to Wash Day Wusa. I am so genuinely thrilled to have today's guest with you. |
| 1:24.0 | It's a very special episode, a very special person. Today we are talking all about |
| 1:28.5 | legacy, grit, building your own table, and maybe a house and maybe a whole city block, maybe a |
| 1:34.4 | whole stadium. We are so hyped to welcome Cheryl McKissick Daniel. She is the president and CEO of |
| 1:40.9 | McKissick and McKissick. This is the oldest black and women-owned design and construction |
| 1:45.7 | firm in the country. We're talking five generations deep, y'all. Cheryl is here to talk about |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from iHeartPodcasts, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of iHeartPodcasts and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.