I want to get to the 68 convention and the protests that led to the charges that led to the trial.

Perhaps we could start by, if our listeners are not familiar with the yippies, with the mobe,

with the groups that are involved and sort of how the whole resistance to the convention came about.

So on a pretend basis,

okay.

On a pretend basis,

there was something called the mobilization against the war,

mobilization and the war in Vietnam,

whatever the hell the actual title was.

And a bunch of people from SDS that I knew,

ready,

when he had been a community organizer in Chicago

on the north side when I was on,

when I was posted to the loop. So we knew each other from then, but then got involved in the

anti-war movement, so did Tom. So Jerry, Jerry Rubin, originally was, uh, Life magazine, his first

shot was as part of the anti-war demonstrations.

He then moved to New York and became friends with Abbs, Abby, Hoffman, and Abby, who had been

SNCC and it was working on the streets in Chicago, I mean, in New York, Lower East Side,

and Jerry would call me up and say, Lee, got to come to New York, you know, he and I, you know, he got, you know,

you can't be if he knew, oh, there's any longer, or even Tom wanted to get out, you know,

so that calling the yippies are the Moab different, they certainly were, but you can't

miss the fact that we all knew one another. Right. Okay.

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